THE WITNESS: I'm … not exactly sure what using terminology like sucking the brains out would --
THE COURT: That's what happens, doesn't it?
WITNESS: Well, in some situations that might happen. There are different ways that an after-coming head could be dealt with but that is one way of describing it..
Testimony of abortionist Dr Timothy Johnson, National Abortion Federation, et. al. v. Ashcroft, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, March 31, 2004.