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Talk of Joan Andrews, given at Meet the Abortion Providers, Sponsored by the
Pro-life Action League, Chicago
Thank you very much. It's really a great honor to be here. It's always such a
blessing to be with Joe and Ann and the wonderful activists here in Chicago. Of
course, I think every community claims Joe; even though he hails from Chicago,
he's the one who goes around and started the activist movement all over this
country and around the world. So it certainly is a pleasure and deep honor for
me to be here with all of you.
I know so many of you have been involved in the Right-to-Life Movement for years
and years, longer than I have. Many of you are involved in the rescues that are
going on now and that's just a great blessing. I think it ties in well with what
we have heard today. What we have heard is our brothers and sisters who were
abortionists and worked for abortionists, who have come out from that heinous
evil and are now defending the babies. That's something so powerful to us and
shows us that Jesus was right when He told us that our brothers and sisters are
all lovable, every one of them, because they are of Him, of God. They are
children of God and we should have been loving them all along. If we haven't,
then the ones who spoke here today can teach us how to love the ones who are
still doing abortions. It makes it easy to love the abortionists who are
actually doing the killing today when we see the ones who used to do abortions,
and who are such wonderful, lovable, godly people, so full of concern for the
little babies, so full of sacrifice for the little babies.
There is a great deal of suffering that goes on with abortion. First and primary
is the suffering of the heart of God. He is so grieved about this. I think what
grieves Him the most, despite the horrendous pain and evil of the killing of the
little babies themselves, is that His people or people who claim His name,
people who call themselves Christians or Jews who are bound to the covenant of
the Lord God, are doing nothing to stop this killing. So many, many Christians
and good Jews who consider themselves people of good will and godly people are
not listening to the voice of God who is calling out in the night: Come save the
little babies. Step forward and stop this holocaust.
The hardness of heart is certainly not only with the abortionists. Probably a
much deeper hardness of heart is with those who are practicing Christians and
people of good will in any religion who consider themselves believers in God and
believers in goodness, who are just ignoring this holocaust. When they are
confronted with it, they just kind of make all kinds of excuses and rationalize.
I understand that because I did the same thing myself in different ways.
God gave me the grace of having been raised by a good Christian family, a good
Catholic Christian family, so I knew right from the time I was a little kid what
was right and what was wrong. We all have a conscience. God gives us all a
conscience and deep in our heart we do know right from wrong, but it sure helps
to have good parents to spell things out because the devil is always tempting us
to not listen to our conscience and to make excuses and to rationalize. When we
have good parents there helping to lead us, and good church leaders... I was a
Catholic at a time when all priests preached the same thing about every evil.
There was no such thing as one priest telling you one thing and another priest
telling you another thing. They all told you adultery was wrong. They all told
you that divorce was wrong. They all told you that abortion was wrong. And there
was a heinous evil--all of those things.
Nowadays, there is a lot of confusion in the church, and that's just the devil.
The smoke of Satan is in the Church, not just the Catholic Church but all the
churches. That's why the main Protestant denominations have all come out in
support of abortion. That's not the true church. That's not God's people
speaking. Even as messed-up as so many Catholics are these days, the teaching of
the church is consistent, as it has been throughout the centuries, condemning
abortion and all the evils. There is a faithful remnant in the church holding it
together. That's true in every church, not just the Catholic Church. There's a
faithful remnant.
But these people are the ones God is asking to sacrifice much because they have
been greatly blessed. They have had graces beyond those the others have had. The
Lord tells us in Scripture that we are judged by what we know, and once we know
something, then there are no excuses.
I remember a passage where Jesus spoke, and He said that now the heavy weight is
on you because now you know, and there is no excuse. You can't say you didn't
know.
We, of course, in this room do know. We are doing something about it, thank God.
God bless you for it. But there are many, many other fellow Christians and
people of good will out there who are not doing anything about it, and they do
know. But we are pricking that conscience of theirs by being out there in the
death camps, by blocking the killing. The more we are out there, a visible sign
of God's love in the world and His truths, the more those other Christians and
other people of good will who do acknowledge that abortion is evil and do
proclaim that they are against abortion and do commit themselves to the Lord and
make a public pronouncement of their commitment to the Lord, are going to be
very, very uneasy. And they're squirming, and that's great!
Let's look deeper into this. The whole reason this abortion holocaust has gone
on as long as it has and has devoured our whole society the way it has and has
gone right into infanticide and euthanasia and fetal experimentation and
pornography--its tentacles reach all of us, into our families, the whole of
society and Satan has come into the church--is because those who knew better and
who proclaim the name of the Lord have done nothing, or have done very, very
little. I think the bottom line is that we were not willing to sacrifice and
suffer, and even die for the Lord, the Truth, goodness, for love. Love is God.
They haven't been willing until now, and I really think we are willing now. I
think this past year, more than any other time in the history of the Pro- Life
Movement, the history of the church in this country, we are willing to suffer,
and suffering will come. But right now, if we continue to grow as we are, the
suffering won't be as great, but we aren't even concerned about that. I believe
that truly, that we are not really concerned about that.
What we really are concerned about is doing God's will, and if it means
suffering, we'll embrace that suffering and count ourselves blessed, deeply
blessed for the privilege of suffering just a little bit for the Lord. I don't
care how great the suffering is, if it's only just a little bit, it will never
be what the babies have suffered because they're so young and defenseless. Even
if we were ripped apart ourselves, we have lived a life on this earth, we will
never experience the rejection they have experienced. Primarily, the rejection
at our own hands and those who are like us, who proclaim the name of the Lord.
If it weren't for such a good God we could never make up for that, none of us
could. I consider myself far more guilty than any abortionist. Because I knew
better. I knew all along how bad it was, and I was just so weak and scared, even
though I knew the Lord would give me enough strength to do what He asked of me.
I knew that all my life. Even though I knew that, I kept centering my focus on
myself and so, so often failing to respond to His grace and to His beckoning.
In 1973 1 came to Chicago to try to disarm murder weapons, and, of course, if I
knew Joe Scheidler was here I would have gone ahead and done it. But I didn't
know that, so I chickened out and went back home. So I did little things, but I
knew deep in my heart that I was not doing what God was calling me to do.
But about seven years later I started going right to the death camps and
blocking the killing. That's what I knew God was asking of me, in charity toward
these little babies. But just as much, and even in a way more importantly,
acting in charity and love, and by example for my dear brothers and sisters who
were abortionists who needed that example, and needed my love, and needed to see
the gentleness of God, the forgiveness of God, and the goodness of God, the
holiness of God through my life, through my example.
I'm still failing God miserably by not being the example I should be, but I'm
trying, and the Lord is blessing me. He is blessing everyone in this room. Here
we are, listening to our brothers and sisters who once were caught up in that
evil because of our failure and the attacks of Satan. With that combination they
fell into this atrocious evil. But we're here, listening to them, and learning
from them, and we'll be able to go out in love to the many, many brothers and
sisters in our society and in the world who are continuing in this evil and
destroying their own souls.
I had a problem dealing with people who responded to the devil's temptation to
murder the innocent. When I was a little kid I read a lot about the Nazi
Holocaust in Germany, and even though it was over by the time I was born, I
still could not get rid of the oppression of what happened just a few years
before my time. I couldn't get over it because it was such recent history, for
one thing. And it was in a civilized society and it was allowed to be done by
Christians. The vast majority of the population was Christian, even though many
good Christians stepped forward and rescued the Jews, and it was the
Evangelicals and the Catholics and a few others who were rescuing the Jews and
the other so-called outcasts of Germany and then all of Western Europe. They
still were a minority doing it, and I knew as a kid that mass murder could not
take place in any society without that society turning its back on the killing
and allowing it to take place. Even a kid knows that, because you realize that
there are a lot of people in the world and not that many government officials.
The masses of the people can stop whatever evil is going on, and if the masses
of the people happen to be Christian, and there are lots of churches around--you
see people always going to church, and you read that in Germany everybody was
going to church--you realize that people have failed, they have failed their
God. And they were calling themselves Christians. So that really bothered me.
I had a deep anger and great confusion about why Christians allowed that to
happen. But I had even a deeper anger about the Nazis who actually did the
killing and the guards at the extermination camps. The way I came to deal with
that was just through prayer. I went one year to college and when I was there I
finally came to terms with that and God just flooded me with grace. Always, I
envisioned myself at a death camp, and I viewed the Jews with the yellow stars
on them and the tattoos on their arms, starving and skinny, just skin and bones
like the little babies when we see their bodies piled up. I saw them in humble
prayer. Then I saw the Nazi guards, and all of a sudden I was just overwhelmed
with pity and tenderness for the guards. And I thought, gee whiz, who deserves
my pity more? Who needs my prayers more? The Jewish victims who are on their way
to Heaven, who are good and innocent, or those who are murdering them? I Just
felt such pity. Whose shoes would I rather be in? I certainly would rather be in
the shoes of the victims than the shoes of those who were doing the persecuting.
So I really felt a great tenderness and a forgiveness in my own heart for them.
I prayed with love in my heart for them.
So then when the abortion holocaust came, when I was 25 years old, I was
overwhelmed by shock. My first anger was at the church because it was silent. I
certainly didn't see everybody out in the streets, an uprising of the churches.
I didn't see that, and that was a shock. The silence was a shock. Then knowing
that individual mothers and fathers were taking their little babies in to be
killed, and that there were people out there, abortionists willing and wanting
to do the killing.
Then all of a sudden, through prayer again, I realized that these people needed
my example and that they were victims of a Christian community in my country
now, in America, that was being silent. Had the church stood up and said, no way
are you going to kill little babies, if it were pronounced from every pulpit and
people were told to not just pray, but prayer and action, and get out there and
stop the killing, it wouldn't happen.
What struck me today was that both doctors said that it wasn't that they wanted
to do abortions; it wasn't that they were overwhelmed with this evil glee, let's
kill all these babies! It wasn't that they were shocked when they first saw what
was happening, the little arms and legs, and that little human beings were being
torn apart. It was that they had no commitment to anything. And they really had
no one to take them aside and be a friend, and say, listen, please. You don't
want to do that, you don't have to be involved in this. These are little babies.
But they didn't have anyone doing that.
So that's what's needed. We need to be out there for them. We have to be there
in gentleness and in love, but in firmness. Like a parent with a child, if your
child is going to do something horrendous like take a brick and throw it through
your neighbor's window, or beat up an old lady, or beat up another kid, you
don't ignore it, nor do you scream abusive things at your child. That's not
going to teach a child. That's not going to turn his heart. Kids can be really
kind of mean sometimes. I remember hearing some stories recently about some kids
who were picking on an elderly person who lived alone and maybe had some ways
that weren't quite similar to the way most people behave. So they were
tormenting this poor fellow. But the mother of one of the kids who was doing it
just said, you know, I wonder how you'd feel if one day your dad and I got a
little feeble in our old age, and how would you feel if some kids your age came
and tormented us? The boy never answered to anything, but that night he took his
dinner to the neighbor and apologized for the broken window.
That's what example is. A gentle word. That mother didn't take him by the ear
and pull him in the bedroom and give him a slapping. I think we have to approach
our brother and sister abortionists in gentleness and love and forgiveness, but
in firmness. We've got to block the killing. We've got to be there. And they
have to see the humanity of the babies through us. The only way they are going
to see the humanity of the babies through us is to see such love in our hearts,
not only for them, but for these little babies that we can get beat up, kicked,
screamed at, and treated in the foulest way, but we will remain gentle and
loving. But we will not remove ourselves from the door, blocking the killing at
the death camps.
When there are hundreds of thousands of us doing it, their hearts will be
converted. I think one of us doing it, a lone rescuer might convert somebody.
But eventually this whole nation will be converted when we are all out there
blocking the killing. Of course, the other work has to go on--the legislative,
the alternatives, the education. But none of that is going to ring true unless
we put actions behind our words and be there for the individual babies dying
each day in our community.
If we're going to save the babies ten years from now, pass a law and get baby
protection on the books ten years from now we're going to have to ignore the
babies dying in our community right now. But we will start working now and we
will work every day. It's illegal to be out there to protect them. But that
illegal is not legitimate because one cannot really legalize murder. We all know
that. That's why judges and police officers and other individual public
officials in Nazi Germany who went along with that killing, which was legal in
that country and it was a duly elected government, they were prosecuted and some
were executed because you cannot legalize murder. That's why those of us who go
out there and block the killing in this country--we are enforcing the legitimate
law. But we have to be that example.
We have to be that example for all the reasons I just said. When I was at
college that one year, I read a poem that was written by an inmate at the Nazi
extermination camp, and what he said was that the Nazis came and arrested them
in the spring of the year, and they rounded up all the Jews in the neighborhood
and threw them in the back of trucks. He could remember looking out to try to
catch the eye of one of his neighbors to see if they were concerned and were
going to try and help them. But he said that the neighbors all looked away and
would not even look at them, and how much that hurt. Then he goes on to describe
the details of what happened after that: being processed, being tattooed, about
the children and how they felt separated from their parents, and being sent to
the labor camps first, and those who were sent to the extermination camp. Then
it came to the end where he was ready to be exterminated and the days had grown
short for him now. He looked back over everything and said, you know, it wasn't
the executioners who were our real enemy because they really couldn't that much
to us. All they could do was destroy our bodies. But the ones who really hurt us
the most were our friends because they had the power to break our spirits, and
they did that when they turned away from us.
So we are Christians and we have to be examples and, by our example, get the
masses of Christians out there in our society. There are churches practically on
every corner. These people are proclaiming the name of Jesus and there are
crosses on top of the churches and there are crosses on top of some of the
killing centers, like your Lutheran abortion hospital here. I think it's great
when you people said that they are either going to take Lutheran out of the name
or the cross off that roof. You have to stop the killing one way or another. If
they keep the killing going, they're not going to pretend that place is a
Christian hospital or that this is a Christian society. You can't have it both
ways. We're not a Christian society if we are doing that. And this is and can be
a Christian society if we live out God's will and do not allow this evil to
exist because all are contaminated by it.
So there are masses of Christians out there; those people who call themselves
Christians. Especially those who already at this point say they are against
abortion but are doing nothing. We have to affect them, and we will affect them
by our willingness to sacrifice and to suffer and to remain faithful. That means
gentle and charitable and not fighting among ourselves. Even if we disagree with
someone, try to convince them of our point of view if we think it's right. If
they aren't going to be convinced, then just let them be and we do what we feel
is right. But not to incriminate. That's how the devil gets to us. And he gets
to us many ways because he's a mighty power. But God's power is greater.
I see the mass of Christians in our society the same as the mass of Christians
in Nazi Germany. There was a remnant, a few people who were rescuing the Jews
and others who were victims in Nazi Germany and Europe. It's the same in our
country. There's a few of us doing it now, but we have to be able to influence
the others and the way we're going to be able to influence them is by becoming
more and more sacrificial. More and more Christ-like.
And when that happens, we will be able to first convert our brothers and sisters
who proclaim the name of Jesus, or proclaim the name of God, that they are
people of good will, good Jews and others. Then after that, God will be able to
convert through us, the hard core people who are now pro-abortion.
I've been hearing about a lady in Atlanta after the October 4th rescue which was
so brutal, and they were loading up people for the next day for more rescues,
and this elderly lady came up to the priest who had also been arrested the day
before, and she told him, I'm scared, but I know I have to do it. She got on the
bus. That's the type of courage and goodness and gentleness through whom God can
work the power of conversion in the hearts of this nation. So it will happen.
There is a movie out called Houston Proud that I think is a powerful tool. When
I got out of prison we showed it to the press in Pittsburgh. They didn't want to
see it, and they refused at first, and then we said, if you want to interview
with us, you have to first watch the film, so they stayed. You could see they
were visibly moved. Those are things that we can do to make sure that people see
this. Maybe they'll never write a word about it, but I know it touched their
hearts. You could see it in their eyes, the way they would look away and then
have to look back. You could tell. So maybe some hearts were moved that day.
A final thing I want to say is what came to mind. I'm a Catholic and they
refused to allow me to attend the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass while I was in
prison. One of the things as I sat there in my cell day after day and week after
week, and then a couple of years went by, was that I felt very lonely. One of
the impressions of prison is that you're very, very lonely. I just wanted to hug
somebody. I pictured in my mind hugging my nieces and nephews often. I just had
to picture it in my mind because it became such a craving. It really hurts. And
suddenly I began to realize that Jesus (I'm talking to the Catholics now), in
the real Presence in the Blessed Sacrament, so lonely. No one goes by to visit
Him. Not only year after year, but century after century. He stays there because
He loves us so much. I was taught something about real love. Being there for
someone, even if they ignore you.
How many felt ignored at an abortion mill? Especially when other Pro-Lifers
never came out, when you feel that many of your churches have turned their back
on you. You don't ever see a collar out there or a habit. You feel all alone.
You're the only one out there day after day, week after week, year after year.
You get lonely. Well, think of the Lord Jesus and He can give you the strength
to continue, even if you're the only one.
I often say that this rescue movement is thrilling. It's taken off. It's really
powerful. But I wonder if it were to die in its tracks tomorrow, would you still
be out there? I think you would. Even if you were the only one left in this
nation, ,and everyone else had been exterminated, you'd be out there because
your Jesus is faithful to us, no matter what. Even when we are totally
unfaithful to Him, He's our example.
God bless you.
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